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dilbert_cal
03-29 11:19 PM
Your lawyer is right. People are taking advantage of portabilty of PD in multiple 140s. However, they are forgetting fundamental of 140 sponsership. Your employer already filed a 140 for a higher level position (EB2) and now requesting again USCIS to approve a 140 for a lower level position (EB3) for same employee with in a months. How will you justify? Howmany job offer your employer can give you? Is there any logic involved, for a person already given a higher level position, to take a lower level position. In the eyes of USCIS, it will defintly looks like your employer is doing fraud and there is no genuine job offer to you. If it is otherway, it may not look bad. If your first I-140 was EB3 and second one is EB2, then there may be a logic.
If what you are saying constitutes a fraud, isnt filing the PERM the first step of the fraud and thats already committed -
I'm not a lawyer - so dont know much about legalities - but this is a common practise nowadays - filing multiple labor petitions for the same person does happen - I believe it certainly is possible that you can go forward provided and thats very important - provided your company is willing to cooperate. It can always happen that they had job 'X' initially but later on the requirements changed which created job 'Y'. Now, you are overqualified for 'Y' as X's qualitifications were greater than Y but that doesnt stop you from applying for or to be considered for job 'Y'. There are folks who have 10 years of experience and their labor is for 2 or 3 years of experience. Certainly doesnt look like fraud to me - of course, if your company wants you to be stuck - you dont have much choices. I've known another instance where the company claimed it may be fraud and on something that they had proposed to do all along - things did sort out finally but its a long story :-)
If what you are saying constitutes a fraud, isnt filing the PERM the first step of the fraud and thats already committed -
I'm not a lawyer - so dont know much about legalities - but this is a common practise nowadays - filing multiple labor petitions for the same person does happen - I believe it certainly is possible that you can go forward provided and thats very important - provided your company is willing to cooperate. It can always happen that they had job 'X' initially but later on the requirements changed which created job 'Y'. Now, you are overqualified for 'Y' as X's qualitifications were greater than Y but that doesnt stop you from applying for or to be considered for job 'Y'. There are folks who have 10 years of experience and their labor is for 2 or 3 years of experience. Certainly doesnt look like fraud to me - of course, if your company wants you to be stuck - you dont have much choices. I've known another instance where the company claimed it may be fraud and on something that they had proposed to do all along - things did sort out finally but its a long story :-)
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richana
01-23 09:20 PM
Thanks for the reply! That was very helpful .
Do I still have to be employed by my original sponsor when i get the appt after 6 months?
If I return to the US in a few months do I still have to option of filing 485 even though I've already applied for CP in India?
Yes to Q1. Yes to Q2, but you will have to discontinue the CP option. I would suggest going the CP way in your case. AOS is unpredictable with CP you will have a definite date. Best option get H1 in India return and apply for AOS, if not apply for CP and return with H1 go back in 6 months get GC if all else fails wait in India for 6 months and come back with GC.
Do I still have to be employed by my original sponsor when i get the appt after 6 months?
If I return to the US in a few months do I still have to option of filing 485 even though I've already applied for CP in India?
Yes to Q1. Yes to Q2, but you will have to discontinue the CP option. I would suggest going the CP way in your case. AOS is unpredictable with CP you will have a definite date. Best option get H1 in India return and apply for AOS, if not apply for CP and return with H1 go back in 6 months get GC if all else fails wait in India for 6 months and come back with GC.
gtg506p
03-09 09:19 AM
Dear All,
My wife had applied for H1 last year through one desi employer. We received the H1. The employer took initial money from us to pay for the H1 fees promising that once project got started he would pay back. But during search for a project he mentally harassed us a lot. Luckily my PD became current, my wife got EAD and we could work independently. We were thinking of complaint against him to DOL. We have even prepared the case with all the documents and everything.
We were ready to send it but yesterday we came across a case of one Vishal Goyal who sued Patni for paying him low wages. Patni then threatened to harm his family in india if he doesent withdraw the case.
We are just afraid of something like that. I request people to please share if they have been abused by desi employer and if they have sucessfully complained to DOL and their experience in what they went through. Thank You.
Amar
My wife had applied for H1 last year through one desi employer. We received the H1. The employer took initial money from us to pay for the H1 fees promising that once project got started he would pay back. But during search for a project he mentally harassed us a lot. Luckily my PD became current, my wife got EAD and we could work independently. We were thinking of complaint against him to DOL. We have even prepared the case with all the documents and everything.
We were ready to send it but yesterday we came across a case of one Vishal Goyal who sued Patni for paying him low wages. Patni then threatened to harm his family in india if he doesent withdraw the case.
We are just afraid of something like that. I request people to please share if they have been abused by desi employer and if they have sucessfully complained to DOL and their experience in what they went through. Thank You.
Amar
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java_jaggu
06-20 04:29 PM
logiclife, I am not sure whether we can file the 485 on our own with a letter from the employer. The letter from the employer is part of the "Initial Evidence" required to file the 485 petition. Here is a snippet from the immigration-law website talking about the importance of submitting the initial evidence at the time of filing. There is a high possibility that your I-485 petition will get denied(without an RFE) if you don't submit it without a letter from the employer.
06/17/2007: Flexible RFE/NOID Response Time Rule and Advisory for July EB-485 Filing
As we advised earlier, the USCIS published a new rule that allows the USCIS to have more discredtion and control over the two issues: One is shortening of the timeframe for responses to RFE from previous 12 weeks to any period of time which they see fit. The second rule is their authority to either reject or deny petitions or applications without issuing RFE where "initial evidence" is missing in the filing. Previously, the so-called Yates memo indirectly required the agency to avoid rejection and denial with a recommend to issue RFEs as much as possible. This part of the Yates memo is overridden by the new rule who took effect yesterday, June 16, 2007. It is thus likely that the Service Centers will more aggressively reject or deny the I-485 applications where the "initial evidence" are missing in the filing packet. It is thus very important that people understand the definition of "initial evidence." The initial evidence varies between the nonimmigrant and immigrant proceedings and for that matter, each type of proceedings. The immigration regulation lists in details the initial evidence. However, the instructions sheets to each petition or application lists the initial evidence that are required for filing. Accordingly, beginning from today, people may want to read the instruction sheet for I-485 form carefully to learn the list of initial evidence and not to miss omitting these evidence in filing I-485 applications.
06/17/2007: Flexible RFE/NOID Response Time Rule and Advisory for July EB-485 Filing
As we advised earlier, the USCIS published a new rule that allows the USCIS to have more discredtion and control over the two issues: One is shortening of the timeframe for responses to RFE from previous 12 weeks to any period of time which they see fit. The second rule is their authority to either reject or deny petitions or applications without issuing RFE where "initial evidence" is missing in the filing. Previously, the so-called Yates memo indirectly required the agency to avoid rejection and denial with a recommend to issue RFEs as much as possible. This part of the Yates memo is overridden by the new rule who took effect yesterday, June 16, 2007. It is thus likely that the Service Centers will more aggressively reject or deny the I-485 applications where the "initial evidence" are missing in the filing packet. It is thus very important that people understand the definition of "initial evidence." The initial evidence varies between the nonimmigrant and immigrant proceedings and for that matter, each type of proceedings. The immigration regulation lists in details the initial evidence. However, the instructions sheets to each petition or application lists the initial evidence that are required for filing. Accordingly, beginning from today, people may want to read the instruction sheet for I-485 form carefully to learn the list of initial evidence and not to miss omitting these evidence in filing I-485 applications.
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kumhyd2
05-19 02:12 PM
I 140 : approved last month
I 485 : July 07 filer passed 180 days
GC Process : Substition Labor / Future employment
The future employer is threatening to withdraw the I 140 if I dont comply with his financial terms.
I heard that if I 140 is approved and 485 is pending for 180 days, even if the employer withdraws I140 , there isn't much we need to worry. Is this true. currently on h1 which is expiring next month 6th. To convert to EAD do I need to do anything specific and send an update to USCIS?
I 485 : July 07 filer passed 180 days
GC Process : Substition Labor / Future employment
The future employer is threatening to withdraw the I 140 if I dont comply with his financial terms.
I heard that if I 140 is approved and 485 is pending for 180 days, even if the employer withdraws I140 , there isn't much we need to worry. Is this true. currently on h1 which is expiring next month 6th. To convert to EAD do I need to do anything specific and send an update to USCIS?
floridasun
01-12 08:57 AM
Mi won't call u superstitious but superstupid, for lack of any better words
Maddipati and furiouspride - if you want to use your foul mouth, be my guest. gc has shattered my career right in front of eyes. I have seen worthless piece of $hits grow and show their attitude just like you guys.
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Raj_2009
08-19 10:39 AM
Hi,
I belong to Virginia. But Virginia office does not have the dates available for next 2 months. Can I visit to the neighbouring Maryland state USCIS local office for Information. Is it legal and valid to go to Other local office for information?
Thanks,
Raj
I belong to Virginia. But Virginia office does not have the dates available for next 2 months. Can I visit to the neighbouring Maryland state USCIS local office for Information. Is it legal and valid to go to Other local office for information?
Thanks,
Raj
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java_jaggu
06-20 04:29 PM
logiclife, I am not sure whether we can file the 485 on our own with a letter from the employer. The letter from the employer is part of the "Initial Evidence" required to file the 485 petition. Here is a snippet from the immigration-law website talking about the importance of submitting the initial evidence at the time of filing. There is a high possibility that your I-485 petition will get denied(without an RFE) if you don't submit it without a letter from the employer.
06/17/2007: Flexible RFE/NOID Response Time Rule and Advisory for July EB-485 Filing
As we advised earlier, the USCIS published a new rule that allows the USCIS to have more discredtion and control over the two issues: One is shortening of the timeframe for responses to RFE from previous 12 weeks to any period of time which they see fit. The second rule is their authority to either reject or deny petitions or applications without issuing RFE where "initial evidence" is missing in the filing. Previously, the so-called Yates memo indirectly required the agency to avoid rejection and denial with a recommend to issue RFEs as much as possible. This part of the Yates memo is overridden by the new rule who took effect yesterday, June 16, 2007. It is thus likely that the Service Centers will more aggressively reject or deny the I-485 applications where the "initial evidence" are missing in the filing packet. It is thus very important that people understand the definition of "initial evidence." The initial evidence varies between the nonimmigrant and immigrant proceedings and for that matter, each type of proceedings. The immigration regulation lists in details the initial evidence. However, the instructions sheets to each petition or application lists the initial evidence that are required for filing. Accordingly, beginning from today, people may want to read the instruction sheet for I-485 form carefully to learn the list of initial evidence and not to miss omitting these evidence in filing I-485 applications.
06/17/2007: Flexible RFE/NOID Response Time Rule and Advisory for July EB-485 Filing
As we advised earlier, the USCIS published a new rule that allows the USCIS to have more discredtion and control over the two issues: One is shortening of the timeframe for responses to RFE from previous 12 weeks to any period of time which they see fit. The second rule is their authority to either reject or deny petitions or applications without issuing RFE where "initial evidence" is missing in the filing. Previously, the so-called Yates memo indirectly required the agency to avoid rejection and denial with a recommend to issue RFEs as much as possible. This part of the Yates memo is overridden by the new rule who took effect yesterday, June 16, 2007. It is thus likely that the Service Centers will more aggressively reject or deny the I-485 applications where the "initial evidence" are missing in the filing packet. It is thus very important that people understand the definition of "initial evidence." The initial evidence varies between the nonimmigrant and immigrant proceedings and for that matter, each type of proceedings. The immigration regulation lists in details the initial evidence. However, the instructions sheets to each petition or application lists the initial evidence that are required for filing. Accordingly, beginning from today, people may want to read the instruction sheet for I-485 form carefully to learn the list of initial evidence and not to miss omitting these evidence in filing I-485 applications.
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10-21 03:32 AM
I remember making my wife a "I love You" card for out 5th anniversary (1989) with a Tandy Computer with 1meg of Ram, in some sort of drawing program... :elderly:
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03-20 04:19 PM
Its coming on the foreground on thursday thru a press conference by Rep Jeff Flake and Rep Luis Gutierrez. Read the breaking news thread from IV core.
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rockstart
11-30 01:56 PM
Here is what I can advise
1) Get all the supporting documentation that you have for both cases. Example tickets/ citations, fine receipts, any other docs related to the case you can find. make sure you make photo copies of all documents
2) Get a court dispositon documents for both cases to prove that the cases are closed and fine was paid
3) Make sure you run all these documents past your immigration attorney to ensure nothing is missing. Also get in touch with your lawyers that handled the DUI & other case to see if they can help you with paperwork
4) If you are not comfortable defending you case you can take an attorney with you. That is entirely optional thing.
5) No one on this forum or immigration officer has any moral right to tell you what you did was good or bad. Its the job of courts and they have already made you pay fine. So as long as you can furnish all relevant papers that these cases are closed you are fine with your immigration process.
1) Get all the supporting documentation that you have for both cases. Example tickets/ citations, fine receipts, any other docs related to the case you can find. make sure you make photo copies of all documents
2) Get a court dispositon documents for both cases to prove that the cases are closed and fine was paid
3) Make sure you run all these documents past your immigration attorney to ensure nothing is missing. Also get in touch with your lawyers that handled the DUI & other case to see if they can help you with paperwork
4) If you are not comfortable defending you case you can take an attorney with you. That is entirely optional thing.
5) No one on this forum or immigration officer has any moral right to tell you what you did was good or bad. Its the job of courts and they have already made you pay fine. So as long as you can furnish all relevant papers that these cases are closed you are fine with your immigration process.
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gc_bucs
03-25 01:10 PM
Well this is a organization that is run by volunteers and given what they are already doing I personally don't expect them to notify everytime a web fax is put up. I just make it a point to check the website regularly and do whatever I can to chip in...thats my 2 cents...
Well How do you know that all the members who are registered with IV is aware of this Webfax? Did you guys notify them in anyway? Do you expect/mandate all the IV members should be checking the website/forums all the time? No Hard feeling.... Just my 2 cents
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07-26 10:59 AM
My company attorneys are in the process of filing my AOS application per the July bulletin. I have an approved labor certification and an approved I-140. Turns out due to internal restructuring a new legal vehicle was created under the existing company and groups re-aligned. Job function and location haven't changed.
The attorneys are syaing that since the I-140 was approved prior to the restructuring, they will be filing a new successor-in-interest I-140 with my AOS application.
My question is since I had an approved I-140 is this considered an amendment to the previous i-140 and processed at I-485 adjudication stage or is it considered a brand new filing aubject to the i-140 backlog in processing.
I would appreciate a response from Logiclife (since he had posted a similar scenario) or sopmeone else in similar situations or with knowledge of the above.
The attorneys are syaing that since the I-140 was approved prior to the restructuring, they will be filing a new successor-in-interest I-140 with my AOS application.
My question is since I had an approved I-140 is this considered an amendment to the previous i-140 and processed at I-485 adjudication stage or is it considered a brand new filing aubject to the i-140 backlog in processing.
I would appreciate a response from Logiclife (since he had posted a similar scenario) or sopmeone else in similar situations or with knowledge of the above.
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beibei2929
05-15 02:08 PM
Thank you, sunny!
Since your current extn application is still pending, your new visa stamp would bear the june30 date, as far as I know. Talk to an attorney.
Since your current extn application is still pending, your new visa stamp would bear the june30 date, as far as I know. Talk to an attorney.
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Almond
01-12 05:26 PM
At first I was so pissed when I realized how old this thread is but then I read it and you guys bicker like old women. Hilarious:D
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suny_saini
07-22 11:35 AM
yes we already have an attorney in US
i want to ask what if the age is 21 or greater than 21 b4 priority dates became current?
what is the solution then?
does CSPA automatically protects and applies and help the children who aged out or they should have filled some forms for seeking the help?
does they also give some grace of some days like 45 days or more if the age is more than 21 at that time?
i want to ask what if the age is 21 or greater than 21 b4 priority dates became current?
what is the solution then?
does CSPA automatically protects and applies and help the children who aged out or they should have filled some forms for seeking the help?
does they also give some grace of some days like 45 days or more if the age is more than 21 at that time?
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jnraajan
01-14 05:08 PM
I have done it once. It all depends on your relationship with your current employer. If they are ok with it, you shouldnt have any problems.
msp1976
02-08 05:13 AM
Might be slightly more than 6 months...But much faster than EB3/EB2 India/china....
kaisersose
06-16 12:57 PM
She can make all the recommendations she wants, but the decision lies with your employer.
Obviously, no employer can plan to retain his employees forever. It is a fact of life that people move on. So the basic question is, does your employer have problems with you quitting? What is his expectation? You will have to have a clear discussion with him and then see what he needs.
Now if his demands are unreasonable, then you can still move on anyway as you are protected due to 180 days passing since 485 filing. Technically, you do not need your 140 copy. Al you really need is evidence that you were with the sponsoring employer for 180 days after 485 filing. This evidence will be your 485 receipt and paystubs.
Obviously, no employer can plan to retain his employees forever. It is a fact of life that people move on. So the basic question is, does your employer have problems with you quitting? What is his expectation? You will have to have a clear discussion with him and then see what he needs.
Now if his demands are unreasonable, then you can still move on anyway as you are protected due to 180 days passing since 485 filing. Technically, you do not need your 140 copy. Al you really need is evidence that you were with the sponsoring employer for 180 days after 485 filing. This evidence will be your 485 receipt and paystubs.
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